O algo asi era el viejo refran
En Economist hay un interesante grafico acerca de las evoluciones de los PBI, apreciacion del yuan, inflacion que trata de mostrar cuando las economias china y USA igualaran su PBI ahora que China desplazo a Japon como 2do
Si me ponog a buscar, seguro existe algo igual, no tan bonito, de la decada del 80 de Japan Inc vs USA, pero, si Uds le creen a las estadisticas chinas (por lo que se lee, hay Morenomics tambien ahi)
enjoy
http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/12/save_date
Si, ya se, no es una economia free market, no lo sabian?
lunes, 20 de diciembre de 2010
sábado, 11 de diciembre de 2010
Un grande
El tipo siempre fue grosso, aca se refiere a USA, pero, siempre es bueno aprender
Government, economics, and purposes
I am told that the effect of the Bush II tax cuts was not positive. Being no economist all I can do is point to economists who differ, but that wasn't the point to begin with. My only experience with tax cuts and revenue comes from the Reagan era, when supply side economics certainly seemed to work just fine but again that was not my point. So far as I know "supply side" is not what Bush I called voodoo economics, but I will leave the debates to others.
My point then and now is that the government is spending far too much money, and running up deficits, and this isn't going to be fixed with tax raises; or at least there seems to be a general agreement that raising taxed in a depression is a bad idea.
But what's being debated in Washington now has little to do with economics. What's being debated is spreading the wealth, which is to say, who is entitled to what, and from whom? If the notion is that the rich aren't paying enough to support the level of spending we have decided is "necessary", and a tax raise on the rich will solve the problem, then that ought to be demonstrated, and it hasn't been. I used to play with matrices of numbers, who made how much, and what the return on investment (economic growth) is from each bracket, and it can be fun, but it's pretty hard to defend the numbers you get as more than speculation.
The real issue is this: without government as we know it, the result is not good for most people. Conservatives have been saying this for a long time. Government is not merely a necessary evil, but a positive good. Thomas Hobbes famously described life in a state of nature as "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." The conditions in several Mexican areas where government no longer functions would seem to illustrate this nicely. So do conditions in some prisons. Where there is no government, the leadership principle reigns: those who can command the loyalty of others create bands, and those bands compete for supremacy, and soon there are no "innocent bystanders." You are part of the structure, and you submit to the conditions of joining the Mafia, The Mexican Mafia, the Black Panthers, the Aryan Brotherhood, or some similar organization, or you submit to all those who have joined them. You are entitled to nothing.
The trick, then, is to create conditions to which both the poor and the rich will submit. The rich are not inclined to hire their own thugs or make common cause with the common enemy because they are safe in their property at a price they are, probably reluctantly, willing to pay; and the poor do not band together to despoil the rich. There will be criminals who do not agree and attempt to spread the wealth by simply taking it, but government tries to protect everyone from them, and even those who have little agree that criminals ought to be discouraged and prosecuted.
When those who rob the rich become sufficiently popular they either become the government or cease to be criminals and become revolutionaries.
It is the interplay among these factors that we call politics. Conservatives say it is best that these fundamental questions do not come to light: politics should stay a long way from the brute question of how much shall we take from whom, and to whom shall we give it; or, to how much are we entitled and who is obliged to pay it; or how much is "enough" for anyone, what is the limit of possessions we will allow?
These question seldom surface in poor societies. When everyone is very poor, and yet there are those who will raid them and take what little they have, it makes sense to hire a knight: that is to pay a suitable candidate to learn the profession of arms, and protect those who are not warriors. Soon enough there arises a feudal society, because the knights are not incorruptible and can become wolves rather than sheep dogs, and who will watch those watchers? Who will protect us from the protectors? These are age old questions which aren't so often studied now as they once were.
Now we are rich -- we live longer, we outlive out teeth, we can travel across the continent for amounts that almost anyone can raise, those who don't have a living are often victims of poor management of the resources they have; since the Industrial Revolution and "Development" the middle class has enormously expanded, and the number of people who live from day to day is much smaller than it was in the days of Jane Austen. And now we are even richer, and the notion is that the distribution pyramid is all screwed up and those on top have so much more than those on the bottom that we need to spread the wealth. Do note that those on minimum wage in today's society work less and live better than the vast majority of people alive in England during the time of Jane Austen. In those times the disparity of resources between anyone in "Society" including those thought poor and the average mill worker or tenant or dock worker was so vast that it could hardly be thought part of a continuum. On the one had there was one meal a day, one suit of clothes worn every day with possibly a "Sunday" outfit although probably not, and essentially no disposable income; on the other carriages, balls, three meals a day, and concerns about making a good marriage.
I am rambling, and I have work to do: but the questions remain. To what are those fortunate enough to live in the United States entitled, and who is obligated to pay it; and is our tax policy intended to produce revenue or is the goal to "spread the wealth" and reduce the disparities between the very rich and the rest of us? And if the latter, is that best done by adding ore to the power of the state? More another time: note I have not endorsed the confiscation and distribution of wealth, nor have I endorsed or condemned raising the taxes on "the rich." I do believe that before we discuss these things we try being honest about what we are trying to accomplish.
If the goal is to stimulate the economy, the means are already known: Freedom and cheap energy. Low taxes, few regulations, and cheap energy (which latter will result from the lack of regulations given half a chance). We know how to do that, and all the attempts at an intellectually dominated command economy have so far pretty well come to naught.
The mix doesn't necessarily require political freedom. That may be a goal in and of itself, but the Spanish growth in Franco's time, and the current boom in China, show that political liberty isn't as important as economic liberty and limited regulations. One might with otherwise, but that seems to be the history. Of course without political liberty one needs some other means for restricting the size of the governing class and Iron Law parasites. But we all know that...
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/2010/Q4/view652.html#Saturday
Government, economics, and purposes
I am told that the effect of the Bush II tax cuts was not positive. Being no economist all I can do is point to economists who differ, but that wasn't the point to begin with. My only experience with tax cuts and revenue comes from the Reagan era, when supply side economics certainly seemed to work just fine but again that was not my point. So far as I know "supply side" is not what Bush I called voodoo economics, but I will leave the debates to others.
My point then and now is that the government is spending far too much money, and running up deficits, and this isn't going to be fixed with tax raises; or at least there seems to be a general agreement that raising taxed in a depression is a bad idea.
But what's being debated in Washington now has little to do with economics. What's being debated is spreading the wealth, which is to say, who is entitled to what, and from whom? If the notion is that the rich aren't paying enough to support the level of spending we have decided is "necessary", and a tax raise on the rich will solve the problem, then that ought to be demonstrated, and it hasn't been. I used to play with matrices of numbers, who made how much, and what the return on investment (economic growth) is from each bracket, and it can be fun, but it's pretty hard to defend the numbers you get as more than speculation.
The real issue is this: without government as we know it, the result is not good for most people. Conservatives have been saying this for a long time. Government is not merely a necessary evil, but a positive good. Thomas Hobbes famously described life in a state of nature as "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short." The conditions in several Mexican areas where government no longer functions would seem to illustrate this nicely. So do conditions in some prisons. Where there is no government, the leadership principle reigns: those who can command the loyalty of others create bands, and those bands compete for supremacy, and soon there are no "innocent bystanders." You are part of the structure, and you submit to the conditions of joining the Mafia, The Mexican Mafia, the Black Panthers, the Aryan Brotherhood, or some similar organization, or you submit to all those who have joined them. You are entitled to nothing.
The trick, then, is to create conditions to which both the poor and the rich will submit. The rich are not inclined to hire their own thugs or make common cause with the common enemy because they are safe in their property at a price they are, probably reluctantly, willing to pay; and the poor do not band together to despoil the rich. There will be criminals who do not agree and attempt to spread the wealth by simply taking it, but government tries to protect everyone from them, and even those who have little agree that criminals ought to be discouraged and prosecuted.
When those who rob the rich become sufficiently popular they either become the government or cease to be criminals and become revolutionaries.
It is the interplay among these factors that we call politics. Conservatives say it is best that these fundamental questions do not come to light: politics should stay a long way from the brute question of how much shall we take from whom, and to whom shall we give it; or, to how much are we entitled and who is obliged to pay it; or how much is "enough" for anyone, what is the limit of possessions we will allow?
These question seldom surface in poor societies. When everyone is very poor, and yet there are those who will raid them and take what little they have, it makes sense to hire a knight: that is to pay a suitable candidate to learn the profession of arms, and protect those who are not warriors. Soon enough there arises a feudal society, because the knights are not incorruptible and can become wolves rather than sheep dogs, and who will watch those watchers? Who will protect us from the protectors? These are age old questions which aren't so often studied now as they once were.
Now we are rich -- we live longer, we outlive out teeth, we can travel across the continent for amounts that almost anyone can raise, those who don't have a living are often victims of poor management of the resources they have; since the Industrial Revolution and "Development" the middle class has enormously expanded, and the number of people who live from day to day is much smaller than it was in the days of Jane Austen. And now we are even richer, and the notion is that the distribution pyramid is all screwed up and those on top have so much more than those on the bottom that we need to spread the wealth. Do note that those on minimum wage in today's society work less and live better than the vast majority of people alive in England during the time of Jane Austen. In those times the disparity of resources between anyone in "Society" including those thought poor and the average mill worker or tenant or dock worker was so vast that it could hardly be thought part of a continuum. On the one had there was one meal a day, one suit of clothes worn every day with possibly a "Sunday" outfit although probably not, and essentially no disposable income; on the other carriages, balls, three meals a day, and concerns about making a good marriage.
I am rambling, and I have work to do: but the questions remain. To what are those fortunate enough to live in the United States entitled, and who is obligated to pay it; and is our tax policy intended to produce revenue or is the goal to "spread the wealth" and reduce the disparities between the very rich and the rest of us? And if the latter, is that best done by adding ore to the power of the state? More another time: note I have not endorsed the confiscation and distribution of wealth, nor have I endorsed or condemned raising the taxes on "the rich." I do believe that before we discuss these things we try being honest about what we are trying to accomplish.
If the goal is to stimulate the economy, the means are already known: Freedom and cheap energy. Low taxes, few regulations, and cheap energy (which latter will result from the lack of regulations given half a chance). We know how to do that, and all the attempts at an intellectually dominated command economy have so far pretty well come to naught.
The mix doesn't necessarily require political freedom. That may be a goal in and of itself, but the Spanish growth in Franco's time, and the current boom in China, show that political liberty isn't as important as economic liberty and limited regulations. One might with otherwise, but that seems to be the history. Of course without political liberty one needs some other means for restricting the size of the governing class and Iron Law parasites. But we all know that...
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/view/2010/Q4/view652.html#Saturday
domingo, 5 de diciembre de 2010
Todo el mundo habla de wikileaks
Y ya que estamos por que no, pero miremoslo desde un punto de vista comico.
La burocracia siempre ataca, aun en los lugares mas insospechados.
White House forbids feds from reading WikiLeaked cables
Everyone else on earth can read them. But they're still classified
The epic collection of classified US documents exposed by WikiLeaks over the past several weeks offer little more than good gossip. But watching the response to Julian Assange and his whistle-blowing website is wonderfully entertaining.
The latest act in the worldwide WikiLeaks comedy: On Friday, the White House told federal employees and contractors they're not allowed to read classified federal documents posted to WikiLeaks unless they have the proper security clearance.
As reported by CNN, the White House Office of Management and Budget sent a memo to the general counsels of various government agencies saying that the publishing of classified documents to WikiLeaks does "not alter the documents' classified status or automatically result in declassification of the documents."
"To the contrary, classified information, whether or not already posted on public websites or disclosed to the media remains classified, and must be treated as such by federal employees and contractors, until it is declassified by an appropriate U.S. Government authority," the memo read.
Cuando terminen de reirse, el link
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/05/federal_employees_barred_from_reading_wikileaks_docs/
en fin, despues nos quejamos de aca
La burocracia siempre ataca, aun en los lugares mas insospechados.
White House forbids feds from reading WikiLeaked cables
Everyone else on earth can read them. But they're still classified
The epic collection of classified US documents exposed by WikiLeaks over the past several weeks offer little more than good gossip. But watching the response to Julian Assange and his whistle-blowing website is wonderfully entertaining.
The latest act in the worldwide WikiLeaks comedy: On Friday, the White House told federal employees and contractors they're not allowed to read classified federal documents posted to WikiLeaks unless they have the proper security clearance.
As reported by CNN, the White House Office of Management and Budget sent a memo to the general counsels of various government agencies saying that the publishing of classified documents to WikiLeaks does "not alter the documents' classified status or automatically result in declassification of the documents."
"To the contrary, classified information, whether or not already posted on public websites or disclosed to the media remains classified, and must be treated as such by federal employees and contractors, until it is declassified by an appropriate U.S. Government authority," the memo read.
Cuando terminen de reirse, el link
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/05/federal_employees_barred_from_reading_wikileaks_docs/
en fin, despues nos quejamos de aca
sábado, 27 de noviembre de 2010
a veces la muestra alcanza
Despues de mil y una discusiones desde la postura fomentemos la industria de alguna forma, a veces la blogosfera te da satisfacciones,
Para los que decían que España era “un monocultivo de la construcción”, ahí tienen. Una economía diversificada, con todo tipo de bienes y servicios.
evidentemente este dicho podria haberlo suscripto un adalid a ultranza de la proteccion industrial
No, Lucas Llach en La Nacion de hoy, ah, bienes esta tachado en el original, se entiende?
com dijo alguien, I rest my case
Para los que decían que España era “un monocultivo de la construcción”, ahí tienen. Una economía diversificada, con todo tipo de bienes y servicios.
evidentemente este dicho podria haberlo suscripto un adalid a ultranza de la proteccion industrial
No, Lucas Llach en La Nacion de hoy, ah, bienes esta tachado en el original, se entiende?
com dijo alguien, I rest my case
domingo, 21 de noviembre de 2010
Lassie y Morenomics
Quizas a Economist le suena raro y hasta risible, pero, cualquier argentino sabra reconocer en estas frases lo normal, razonable y habitual:
But how to stop households buying two bottles of cooking oil rather than one?
And so the government is reaching for less conventional weapons. To shield the vulnerable, it urged local governments to raise unemployment benefits, pensions and the minimum wage in line with inflation. It also promises to increase shipments of cotton from the western region of Xinjiang, and to cut the price of electricity, gas and rail transport for fertiliser makers. To keep the population sweet, on November 22nd it will sell 200,000 tonnes of sugar.
son solo frases al pasar
el articulo completo
http://www.economist.com/node/17528136
y despues dicen que no van a tratar de asegurar el ciclo completo de alimentacion?
uno de los deberes ancestrales de los emperadores es asegurar la comidad a la poblacion, cuando fallan, cambian los emperadores
But how to stop households buying two bottles of cooking oil rather than one?
And so the government is reaching for less conventional weapons. To shield the vulnerable, it urged local governments to raise unemployment benefits, pensions and the minimum wage in line with inflation. It also promises to increase shipments of cotton from the western region of Xinjiang, and to cut the price of electricity, gas and rail transport for fertiliser makers. To keep the population sweet, on November 22nd it will sell 200,000 tonnes of sugar.
son solo frases al pasar
el articulo completo
http://www.economist.com/node/17528136
y despues dicen que no van a tratar de asegurar el ciclo completo de alimentacion?
uno de los deberes ancestrales de los emperadores es asegurar la comidad a la poblacion, cuando fallan, cambian los emperadores
miércoles, 17 de noviembre de 2010
y Lassie se va a China
Si fue Nixon, por que no?
The National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) and other ministries may impose measures such as price limits on food, reinforced punishments on speculation in agricultural products such as corn and cotton, action to prevent hoarding, and the offer of food subsidies to curb inflation, the China Securities Journal wrote, citing unidentified sources.
The government may also force local mayors to take responsibility for insufficient vegetable supply and unstable prices, the report said.
"Market-oriented methods should become a top priority in easing rising food prices but moderate regulations are needed if prices surge too quickly," said Ma Xiaohe, deputy head of the Academy of Macroeconomic Research affiliated to NDRC
el articulo
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-11/17/content_11559856.htm
disclaimer, lo vi en mr trader
The National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) and other ministries may impose measures such as price limits on food, reinforced punishments on speculation in agricultural products such as corn and cotton, action to prevent hoarding, and the offer of food subsidies to curb inflation, the China Securities Journal wrote, citing unidentified sources.
The government may also force local mayors to take responsibility for insufficient vegetable supply and unstable prices, the report said.
"Market-oriented methods should become a top priority in easing rising food prices but moderate regulations are needed if prices surge too quickly," said Ma Xiaohe, deputy head of the Academy of Macroeconomic Research affiliated to NDRC
el articulo
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-11/17/content_11559856.htm
disclaimer, lo vi en mr trader
miércoles, 10 de noviembre de 2010
Back to the future
Hace mucho mucho tiempo, un ingles invento una computadora barata, muy barata, que fue una revolucion, la ZX81.
Ahora, vehiculos electricos mediante, sale esto:
http://www.sinclairzx.com/index2.html
Ahora, vehiculos electricos mediante, sale esto:
http://www.sinclairzx.com/index2.html
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